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Posted - 2015.01.05 20:42:32 -
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DJWiggles wrote:Both Nashh and Bobmon were on the show to talk about this and the backlash that happened in the media Enjoy
Hello DJWiggles! I believe we have met before.
In the interview, one of the biggest things anyone forgot to mention is that all of us, bobmon, Nassh, some bankers and myself actually were all in a teamspeak conversation and all sides of the story were listened to and the story concluded the way it concluded. With the information that bobmon posted on evenews24.com. Bobmon's article followed what he heard from both sides. Maybe being on live radio got him nervous enough to completely forget this, but it happened.
The prize originally was intended for the final blow on the titan (the only bit of information actually available on the forum post). The final blow went to the defense fleet. (and thus an unfair fleet won technically) The defense fleet had a major logistical advantage and intel around the solar system. The defense fleet was not against everyone else. It was a free for all. After all, not blue, shoot it.
The outcome of the defense fleet would not have been the same if it had been anyone else, because then that group would not have had the advantage that the defense fleet had. We actually would have liked to see a group hijack the titan and hold it till they decided to kill it which is likely to happen.
In the end, the defense fleet that WAS organized by Nassh got the final blow on the titan. The defense fleet has been connected to Nassh. The defense fleet knew 48 hours before everyone else where the titan would be located. The defense fleet set up an impenetrable barrier that never engaged more than 250 people at once, even though there were 1700 people in local. (a defense barrier of reported 230+ members) The final blow was the only condition for winning. This caused us to change the giveaways to top damage.
This is why we concluded with still sponsoring the live event (as we have bankers that will be there to do the giveaways of the rest of the ISK) but no longer sponsoring in-game events with this third party.
The sanctity of competition was compromised.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:10:03 -
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Eldwinn wrote:Does I want isk even play this game anymore or do they just collect pay checks from RMT'ing? There was some mentions of us showing up to the event with no guns equipped. It is pretty clear your expectations are unrealistic and slightly ********.
Sorry if I expect the host of an event to not be able to win his own event.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:30:35 -
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Eldwinn wrote:I Want ISK wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Does I want isk even play this game anymore or do they just collect pay checks from RMT'ing? There was some mentions of us showing up to the event with no guns equipped. It is pretty clear your expectations are unrealistic and slightly ********. Sorry if I expect the host of an event to not be able to win his own event. Will there be planned isk being provided forth for your defense fleets in the future?
I didn't manage this event.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 03:26:24 -
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Regardless of what everyone's opinions on what went wrong and what went right is, our conclusion will not change.
The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO. We will no longer host in-game events using this third party.
The fight was indeed amazing. * Especially for the defense fleet whom padded their kill mails and even got the titan kill.
We understand most players had fun but an event CAN be fun and end the wrong way. As this one did.
We are unhappy with how it was marketed and maintained as well as being unhappy with the fact that the defense fleet got the final blow, when the defense fleet should not have participated on the kill.
Since there is so much confusion, I would like Nassh Kadavr to apologize publicly to IwantISK.com and staff for making us look bad and for setting up an event to be in their fleet's favor causing the winner of the event to be a fleet member hired by the host. If no apology is found we will be forced to retract our sponsorship for #EVE_nt in any current and future events, be it live in person or in-game. Not a threat, a promise.
We're not arguing the outcome. Our conclusion is set in stone.
For those of you that seem to be confused as to how this was a fun little failure, repeat this in your own head.
"The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO. "
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Posted - 2015.01.06 03:55:35 -
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Aliventi wrote:I Want ISK wrote:Regardless of what everyone's opinions on what went wrong and what went right is, our conclusion will not change.
The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO. We will no longer host in-game events using this third party.
The fight was indeed amazing. * Especially for the defense fleet whom padded their kill mails and even got the titan kill.
We understand most players had fun but an event CAN be fun and end the wrong way. As this one did.
We are unhappy with how it was marketed and maintained as well as being unhappy with the fact that the defense fleet got the final blow, when the defense fleet should not have participated on the kill.
Since there is so much confusion, I would like Nassh Kadavr to apologize publicly to IwantISK.com and staff for making us look bad and for setting up an event to be in their fleet's favor causing the winner of the event to be a fleet member hired by the host. If no apology is found we will be forced to retract our sponsorship for #EVE_nt in any current and future events, be it live in person or in-game. Not a threat, a promise.
We're not arguing the outcome. Our conclusion is set in stone.
For those of you that seem to be confused as to how this was a fun little failure, repeat this in your own head.
"The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO. " Wow.... You just don't get it. The only person making IWantIsk look bad is yourself. Just because you came to a conclusion doesn't mean it is the right one. All you have done this entire thread is spew incorrect information about the event. Based upon the information you have put forth it is pretty clear you don't even know what happened at the event. You have people on both sides and FCs on both sides telling you it was awesome and yet you are demanding an apology from the group that made it so great. You are a walking and talking PR disaster... Your big complaint is that the defense fleet helped kill the titan they defended. Based upon your previous statements I doubt you looked into the event enough to know that the defense fleet, upon realizing the fight was over, invited everyone back to help kill the titan. Some people took up that offer, others didn't and left. At the end of the day the titan needed to die. Review the killmail. There are hundreds of pilots not affiliated with the defense fleet on the killmail. Any single one of them could have gotten final blow. Trust me. It has happened to me before. For you to even think for a moment that the defense fleet didn't deserve to help kill the titan shows how little you understand about how much time, effort, and isk they put into making this event a success. They did everything right by inviting people back and very much deserved to help kill the titan. You should be ashamed and feel very embarrassed for demanding any form of apology at all.
The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 07:55:53 -
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I love everyone =] <3 I am upset. I will express how I feel. Sorry you don't like it. No insults are being exchanged.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 09:42:34 -
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Dark Flare wrote:I Want ISK wrote:Regardless of what everyone's opinions on what went wrong and what went right is, our conclusion will not change.
The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO. We will no longer host in-game events using this third party.
The fight was indeed amazing. * Especially for the defense fleet whom padded their kill mails and even got the titan kill.
We understand most players had fun but an event CAN be fun and end the wrong way. As this one did.
We are unhappy with how it was marketed and maintained as well as being unhappy with the fact that the defense fleet got the final blow, when the defense fleet should not have participated on the kill.
Since there is so much confusion, I would like Nassh Kadavr to apologize publicly to IwantISK.com and staff for making us look bad and for setting up an event to be in their fleet's favor causing the winner of the event to be a fleet member hired by the host. If no apology is found we will be forced to retract our sponsorship for #EVE_nt in any current and future events, be it live in person or in-game. Not a threat, a promise.
We're not arguing the outcome. Our conclusion is set in stone.
For those of you that seem to be confused as to how this was a fun little failure, repeat this in your own head.
"The titan was killed by the defense fleet. A BIG NO NO. " Can you please explain to me how it's possible for Nassh to set up the event in favour of the defense fleet when he has no control over how many people or what ships come to attack it? The defense fleet did not have an advantage over the others. In fact we were at a severe disadvantage. We held the field due to being well practiced in EVE pvp. And then killed the titan because otherwise it wouldn't have died. I probably shouldn't be repeating this here, but here is the message given to me a couple of hours before the fight by a Snuff director: "dir: you around early evening dir: because there's a "kill a titan" event and there's going to be a few hundred hostiles" Yes. You read it correctly. We prepared to take on a few hundred. Our fleet was comped to deal with a few hundred. We actually took on 1.5 thousand.
1.5 thousand vs 230 is not what happened. What happened was 1,700 in a free for all battle to kill a titan. Eithe way, we have retracted sponsorship already and this topic is behind us now.
Cheers to all that attended!
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:12:53 -
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I've done this for years. I've been through much worse. This is nothing. 500 != 1500.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:25:52 -
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It was not 1500 vs 250. It was free for all. The 500 fleet could have been attacked by multiple other fleets. The defense fleet killed the titan.
We are done with this topic. We will no longer post on this forum post. We will no longer be sponsoring #EVE_nt in-game or out-of-game.
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